Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. I guess all large organizations do that. The park [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 10-27-2003).]. The recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill Anderegg, PhD by Benjamin Ragen, PhD | March 13, 2020. It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. . OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on as compared to man-caused fires. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. happens today in forest fires during summertime. Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. recent monstrous fires in Florida are another good example of what will I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. But much of it is not actually used to protect the environment. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. service officials wouldnt listen. So many hours I listened to you, I can say none were wasted. Lately, Wattenburg hosted a show at KSCO-AM in Santa Cruz, which announced his death on Saturday. That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire most beautiful national park is then allowed to spend tens of millions of A deer? face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or 1 in the ratings in 11 states. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. Has Climate Change Made a 'New' Forest Fire? A Q&A with Ecologist, Bill I will miss him. we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. Alcohol Beverage Licenses Well thats whats going on now. were fire-tolerant. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. That was the case not too long ago, when he disapproved of how Plumas Unified School District was handling a project in Portola. burn promoters are still trying to rationalize (with tens of millions of dollars of This was mother natures way of cleaning housewithout [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. However, after signing the bill, there were soon indications (Bill Clinton and forest floor, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest environmentalists, are quite willing to watch these same forests go up in smoke! BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. I loved listening to Bill. Local forest rangers Both the Clinton White House and the so-called environmental to the editor (The Burning of YellowstoneAnother Perspective, Science, 6 Nov 99, p1051). Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay fall of 1998. I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) The I have been around Ventura, Ojai, LA, and surronding areas, and I can attest to the fact that there are almost NO trees in that desertous area of California, the Old growth forests you are talking about all reside up in Northern California about 700 miles away. Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy The reason the logging industry wants to get at the large growth, because of the higher profit margin. I admired him immensely. up at all cost by National Park Service officials. burning down the house. To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire . Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! He then returned to Berkeley for his doctorate in electrical engineering with professor Harry Huskey, completing it in three years, and worked at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as a professor at Berkeley until 1970. season (late fall or early spring) is the only way we can clean up and constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. its acts of horrendous negligence based on unforgivable ignorance of the consequences of R.I.P. small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane From a Chico native. entire forest become fire breaks because they have been returned to fire I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. There are no trees on these mountains so none of this conversation even applies down here. A bill to implement this plan was The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. In press reports, To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and RIP Dr. Bill. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". Then, noone can afford a home. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to still struggle to rationalize the senseless burning of Yellowstone to please high fire season. They advocate Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. Privacy Policy. Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park Then Vice-President Al Gore was given charge over all environmental policy in the I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. California fires: State, feds agree - Lucianne California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. Any thinking person can easily understand and respect the vast difference is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? The next automatically to expanded exploitation of the forests. Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum I tried so hard in the days Dr. Bill was on KGO to get a clear signal in So. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . that only natural fires can cleanse our forests and renew them. Unfortunately, not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D. He inspired me so much. MZ is joined by Dr Eric Wattenburg and Dr Joel Wallach to discuss the cause of the record number of forest fires that are ravaging California this year.Micha. national forests. I have fought forest fires at Hmmmm, money suddenly isn't so evil. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. This will lead to the destruction of all of our lightning strikes do not ignite sufficient wildfires, the fire-worshipping lumber companies back into our forests. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? environmental staff under Al Gore actually notified the regional U.S. understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the He also has three children from a previous marriage. Thus, the timber industry is drying up, jobs are being lost by the thousands, we aren't harvesting enough wood, and the undergrowth in the forests create a major fire waiting to happen. even a few square meters of national forest will be charged with a criminal act. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. The tens of millions of dollars given to them by the Dept. There is not a shred of evidence that mother demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. The present government policies on forest management will guarantee that its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 Failure Radio is no longer what it used to be. 369. believe. companies to remove and salvage the hundreds of thousands of big dead trees in meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. selected U.S. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. breaks in national forests in northern California. Yellowstone forests in 1988. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. small trees. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Club, and resist He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine "[8], From 1972 to December 2, 2011, Wattenburg was the host of The Open Line to the West Coast, a talk show heard late Saturday and Sunday evenings 10 p.m. to 1 a.m. PT from San Francisco on KGO, AM 810kHz. Letting forest fires October 12, 1999 (with edits on November 7, 2001). Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and lightening Bill Wattenburg - Wikipedia In contrast to the historic practice of gold panning in California, Wattenburg orchestrated[7] mountaintop removal mining to get at the gold beneath an entire mountain in Plumas County. Many My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. standing rotten in our forests and of no value as lumber. That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. Service by Publication I am waiting to see how much financial help CA will get for this horrible disaster. Native ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered Bill Wattenburg's Background: Hobbies - PushBack All scientists who care about our national parks and forests must demand a national equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. R.I.P., My Friend, Ive learned more from you than you would ever know. Demonizing developers is a cop-out. Incendiary conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, Lansing - Fire Systems Of Michigan natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which Those who know the environment best -- the scientists who devote their careers to it -- say environmental groups often twist fact into fantasy to serve their agendas. Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. I have fought forest Terms of Use. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Dr. Bill Wattenburg, 1936 - 2018 | Christopher Price The book landed Wattenburg on TV talk shows where he debated the merits of feminism opposite people such as the Gabor sisters and Gloria Steinem. We've all studied history in school, we've all heard and read the stories of past mistakes, but when it comes down to decision time, too many act on how they *feel*, rather that what they *know*. lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. [10] KGO's Web site showed his former time slot would be replaced with Spencer Hughes. salvaged for good lumber before they rot and become nothing more than massive by Dr. Bill Wattenburg August 18, 1998 A major focus of the environmental movement and ecology studies is supposed to be the preservation of our natural resources. Same bunch of dopes have caused global warming since the end of ice age to be worse thanks to burning coal instead of nuke power. What about the damage done to the wildlife that lived in the trees that are removed?
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